Metta Topic - A War on Iraq


A War on Iraq

Martin wrote on the 18 December 2002

At this time the west is preparing for war again. I have no doubt that Sadam Hussein and his captains have done some terrible things within Arabia but does that really give the western powers the right to step up the existing bombing raids into a full scale war. If Iraq does have chemical weapons and we have the evidence then why not attack or take over the SPECIFIC location(s), publicly announce them and destroy the facility with warning so that no people are hurt or killed and move out IMMEDIATELY? I am no expert but is all this really about the west’s fear of chemical or nuclear attack or is it about oil and gas. Has anyone got any suggestions to make, so that the killing of thousands of civilians and soldiers can be prevented? I say this because it seems that the publics opinion is totally ignored by those in power??

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Jane responded on the 25 December 2002

To stop this war and future wars; Write, pray, walk and talk for peace. Write to those in power Pray for peace within yourself Walk for freedom and peace Talk to everyone you come into comtact with about war, peace and understanding. It is perhaps most important to start with the self, and share this with others.

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sadhak responded on the 29 December 2002

we really have to think carefully, learn the facts, is there another agenda? also when the west had/has various weapons how would we react to such a 'reaction' from the opposite side? Is there an immediate threat? have all options truly been considered? pray, strengthen love, support intelligent peaceful inititives, address the klesah of aggression that lies within each of us...

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David S responded on the 04 January 2003

The US government or rather the power base in the US is going all out for war in the name of peace and stability! So when people talk about doing something for peace make sure Bush and co know that aggressive acts are NOT in the true name of peace! The moment "we" think we are more right than others and have some divine right to kill in the name of so called peace and stability we are heading the same way as Hitler and others throughout history.

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Mark responded on the 08 January 2003

Due to the serious nature of the impending war on Iraq (27th January or 14th February?) Metta has published some useful information - here.

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Helen responded on the 10 January 2003

There will be a mass lobby of parliament on Jan 21st and a march in central London on the 15th Feb. Assemble 12 noon at Embankment, London (nearest tube Embankment) to march at 12:30pm The Stop The War Coalition Site StopWar Tel: 0207 053-2156 PO Box 3739, London E5 8EJ

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Briony E responded on the 21 January 2003

Many are saying the conflict over Iraq, Afghanistan, Saudi etc is about oil (money) and I agree, yet when looking beyond this could it also possibly be also about human value systems? We in the west have grown to value money and possessions far more than the true qualities of life. We work to accumulate objects rather than true happiness yet beneath our drive to accumulate we also seek happiness and a sense of fulfilment. Is it not time for us in the west to stop and really think about what it is we want from this world we strive to control and dominate. Everyone is against war; even the misguided but fear and greed are driving the conflicts. If the driving forces behind Bush and Blair could be persuaded to consider the human cost of their fear perhaps they would really reconsider the path they are going along. For me I just want to hear the truth behind the rhetoric of those in power.

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Rob responded on the 21 January 2003

I have just written a letter to my MP and The PM, lets hope this is only one of 10,000's of letters sent. I almost did not bother and then realised that perhaps most of us do not bother thinking someone else will be doing it for me.

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Seeker responded on the 24 January 2003

Historical, War to the USA has always been about money and power. So is this war effort against Iraq. We have learned little from past events with regards to the effects on human beings. We have however learned a great deal from past events about how to control circumstance to gain power and improve our economy. They world is not a better place as a result of this thinking. It is extremely frustrating. The energy, time and money we will utilize to support this war could be put to much better use. We in the USA simply have not learned to play well with others.

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Greg responded on the 25 January 2003

The strange thing about all this is Germany and to some extent France and many other "western powers" say they are against the war. Given this and the wests need for oil and power why are they against attacking Iraq? We in the UK should have learnt that we do not and should not rule by force, we should not fear Iraq unless they attack us - the first one to throw a punch is nearly always the aggressor. It is the same now, unless Iraq attacks us we should not attack them. Sep 11 was nothing to do with Iraq yet is being used as a justification! Don't attack Iraq. Demonstrate on the 15 Feb in London or with a local group.

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Peace responded on the 28 January 2003

Greg I agree with you, no one should attack unless if it is in act of defence. They have no prove against Iraq and they should not attack, and if UK and the US will attack Iraq they will be committing a war criminal act. But no one could accuse them because they control this world including the United Nations. All what we have to do is watch how the innocent Iraqis bloods will be mixed with the desert sands. And one day it will be our turn to be attacked while we are in beds by our own leaders. Are we controlled by dictators or by democratic nations? Did you read about the beasts USA and UK in the bible in the book of Revelation 13, Peace

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Susan responded on the 31 January 2003

BREAKING NEWS... The government has banned the Anti War rally gathering in London’s Hyde Park - a centre of free speech for 100's of years. Personally I will be going anyway - Speakers Corner and when 10's of thousands arrive, well either we block the roads or move somewhere else - maybe Parliament Square?

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suhas responded on the 31 January 2003

Mad Men Go to WAR Dedicated to the shrub In the kitchen of mystery the lamps flicker, In the smoldering battle field soldiers lay in bunker, It is not that you chose to be insane, it was perhaps the sufferings of the holocaust, that made you writhe in pain. Hiltlers and Mussolinis still patrol the lanes as Churchills and Roosevelts have all been slain, Will the sun and the moon become witness to another war that looms large on the desert, will the mad men ensure that it would not cause global hurt and hatred. Will see many friends killed and betrayed

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Paul responded on the 31 January 2003

Re the ban on walking o the grass in Hyde Park! On Nov 5th every year a great many people visit parks to see firework displays in the dark, all this takes place in the winter! So perhaps this ban has nothing to do with protecting the grass! I wonder if Tessa Jowell and co have really thought this through?

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John F responded on the 03 February 2003

A war on Iraq may be necessary! All this talk of "don't attack Iraq" is a bit silly, the Iraqi leadership has killed thousands of its own people, made war with Iran and invaded Kuwait. It is of course clear that the US and others supported much of the evil that has been done in the past including the supply of weapons etc. BUT Iraq has the potential to cause even more harm to its neighbours and damage the supply of oil to the west. The West needs the oil and therefore has to take action to stop Saddam Hussein before it's to late. Morality has nothing to do with it, Iraq as a nation is a danger to the area, the west has to act.

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Thomas responded on the 10 February 2003

So with your logic, you arm a country to the teeth, encourage them to go to war and put down any rebellion with chemical weapons which you have supplied. They do this and then you realise that they are not always going to do as you say so you kill them because you want what they have (oil)! Sound like madness to me.

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Mihaela responded on the 11 February 2003

I am from Romania and the leaders of my country told that Romania will stand by SUA in this war. I know that they are not the men that fight and dye but in my country people cannot decide in such a difficult matter. I do not like SUA dealing with everybody's problems, I do not like their status of "policeman of the world" but there are many other guilty countries. I am ashamed of my officials saying we are going to stand by SUA.

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Leon responded on the 12 February 2003

In case you didn't know Greg the biggest companies currently working in Iraq are French and German so they are looking after their own interests. I don't fear Iraq as a country but I do fear state sponsered Terrorism which is the real danger.

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Brian responded on the 13 February 2003

Just a thought to everyone; Remember the latest worries over terrorism have nothing whatsoever to do with the situation regarding Iraq. They are totally separate issues! The governments seem to be trying to link them! The US says Al Quieda terrorists are in Iraq, they are also apparently scattered around the world in the west and east so again Iraq and terrorism are not linked with Bin Laden and co. Do they really think we are so stupid, I wish I knew more!

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Tony responded on the 25 February 2003

If they did that, and provided the inspectors info, which is Iraq job to provide, then this situation could be handled peacefully. If Iraqs allowed to do whatever it wants with weapons, I see him using those weapons on innocent people. With the power Saddam has, it's really hard to sit back, wait for him to attack, and then say I TOLD YOU SO. I'm no psychic; I just look at his track record. I wish for a peaceful resolution to this crisis, but it takes two to tango. And if Iraq does not wish for peace then how can there EVER be any?

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Tony responded on the 25 February 2003

Personally I feel that the war on Iraq is the US's responsibility, and not the public. Everyone may look down on the US and feel that they are just being "Hitler" like, but the truth is, no one really knows ALL the facts. I guess the government could disclose our sources on the inside, and tell all that the US knows about Iraq, but everyone knows that this is the sign of a fool. Do you really think the US wants WWIII over oil? Especially when Bush is funding means for alternative fuel methods (i.e. Hydrogen)? I also don't think that Bush wants the oil, as much as he wants Iraq to disarm. (cont.)

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Susan responded on the 25 February 2003

Oh dear, Bush and Co are part of the US oil business, very little is invested in finding alternatives and even less on reducing the US's over dependence on oil. Countries inc Saudi, Korea (N&S) Pakistan, India, Iran, etc have nuclear/chemical weapons. SH went to war with the assistance of the US against Iran, Sadam is possibly an evil man but the war is not about him, it is about securing oil that the US will so desperately need in 10-15 years. If there was little or no oil the US would not even consider war. It is our western greed that is leading to war and not the evil that Sadam Hussan has done in the past. The US is the only country to have ever used weapons of mass destruction.

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Lillian responded on the 13 March 2003

In response to Tony's points - Why is it the US's responsibility? Perhaps because they helped to put SH into power in the first place? Or perhaps because they need to oil in future years? Or maybe because they desperately need to find a way our of bankruptcy? The US may be the most powerful military nation in the world but their political leaders must be the most short sighted western leaders ever. Given this war is probably about to start I pray the East can forgive the West and that it will result in a greater understanding between nations. I hope one day we will all look back on conflict, greed and hatred with a degree of bewilderment.

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Paul responded on the 19 March 2003

It seems the voice of the majority has been heard by the minority in Parliament - perhaps the next election will produce some prospective MP's who truly reflect the wishes of the people. In the next few days we will be attacking a country that has never attacked us and killing people who have never harmed anyone, a people who may have a dictator as a leader, a leader who does not listen to the wishes of his people... May those who kill and those who suffer the terror and pain of war find peace.

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Kathryn responded on the 19 March 2003

Let me ask you. What do you all prefer-that we allow this monster to continue to kill his own people remain doing so in the hope that one day he will stop? Then to clock up an amount of murders he has committed far extending the amount of casualties there will be in this coming war? I know what my preference is. Did no one read Ann Leslie's article in the Daily Mail a Saturday edition of about 6 weeks ago? Up to that point I did not want any war either. Our troops need our support now. If I was younger I would want to be off there myself because this thing needs sorting out. Where is our sense of justice and our bravery? c'mon now..........

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Will responded on the 19 March 2003

There are other ways to stop him, but remember, he is only one man, he would not survive without the support, however misguided of a great many other people. He is as far as I know a tyrannical and possibly evil man who should be thrown out of power - BUT only with the support of the UN. "Our" troops are doing as they are told by our government - they will help the US to kill 100,000's innocent people as a pre-emptive strike against a country which has been under moderated attack for the last 11 years. To justify this war by saying Sadham Hussein has killed just as many is nonsense and if I may say naive in the extreme. Please remember the west supplied chemical, biological weapons etc

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Susan responded on the 28 March 2003

So a war now rages in Iraq, each bomb kills real people. The propaganda looses sight of reality, words get twisted, and killing becomes normal in war. Surgical weapons make it OK to blow up whole streets! Of course TV pictures of UK artillery (not very surgical) pound towns and cities, US helicopters and fighters destroy anything that moves, TV pictures show armoured vehicles being blown to pieces but not those inside. Will our governments starve and bomb the millions in Baghdad into submission and then claim to liberate the people? Iraqi "militia" etc (anything but human beings) attack the invading "liberators" It will all be over in weeks, er months, er as long as it takes!! It is so sad, I cry and pray for those involved.

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Jon responded on the 28 March 2003

It is sad and very painful to see anyone killed, in a strange way it is especially so when they are killing and being killed for all the wrong reasons and against the wishes of the people. I wonder when Bush, Blair and their captains will start telling us that the mass bombs mortars and missiles kill more so called civilians in towns and cities are a sad reality of war and blame Iraq for this - hec why won't they come out in the open and let us kill them!!! This is all madness. So much for democracy, we elect them to run the country on our behalf, well if that is so why do they not do as we wish? I for one will never vote Labour or Conservative again, the Lib Dems will get my vote, they represent the wishes of the people.

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Jackooo responded on the 28 March 2003

You are either with Saddamm Hussain or George Bush. there is no middle area. I think I know who I'd rather be with.

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benjo responded on the 31 March 2003

HEMP. Make no mistake a car can run on ANY OIL, you just design the cars to run on it. Henry Ford was paid by the government NOT to produce his car that ran ENTIRELY on hemp. The Bushes' money is drenched in oil. Dick Cheney was a part of the company that stands to get one of the largest contracts ever ro rebuild post-Saddam Iraq, thus he makes a million dollars. The war keeps tax money sifting through the hands of the rich so they can continue to skim off the top for THEIR best interest. Fight for American freedom, not inpalpable freedom in a country that doesn't know the meaning of the word. the solution is to removes American tyrants like the Bushes from power.

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Patric Asoka responded on the 01 April 2003

my suggestion is to find peace in your own world...my garden is the only place I know of that is free of hatred, violence and killing....so I thought until the other day when a hawk swooped down and snatched one of my squirrel friends...I will never forget the terror in the squirrel's eyes as he flew off to a certain death....oh well, time to rake some leaves. Peace

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V. Haddad responded on the 03 April 2003

Just before Saddam, women in Iraq had more rights than those in most Arabic speaking countries. Iraqi women's rights activist Esra Naama states "Saddam, right now, is terrorizing women, Iraqi women. He's using the excuse of infidelity...he's actually allowed honor killing to come back into society...But, once Saddam is gone, I believe that these are all things that will disappear from our society again." See http://www.state.gov/g/rls/rm/2003/18477.htm Is there anything or anybody, even the basic rights of 50% of the population, worth forcibly defending?

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jen responded on the 05 April 2003

Am I the only person who agrees with action against Iraq? It seems to me all of you are saying "it's nothing to do with us therefor we shouldnt get invovled" isn't that the type of attitude that continues suffering? For instance, you see evidence of a child being abused, you do something to help that child, you dont stay out of it because it's none of your business. Its the same principal for Iraq.It's people are being supressed and killed/tortured by it's leader, so we cant just stand by and let it happen being moral human beings - we need to take action and help them. You all can find many other different reasons you want but that is the fact of it.

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HH responded on the 05 April 2003

If morality was the reason for this war it would not be happening, the poeple of Iraq would deal with it - with the assistance of the west. Not as an invasion.

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jen responded on the 06 April 2003

And how you do suppose we all do that? Their forces would squash a smaller army if that's what you meant. Infact, I don't even know what you meant because it doesnt make sense. I really dont think sadam would allow the west to aid his people to "deal" with his government.

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HH responded on the 06 April 2003

If you are right jen then clearly the majority of Iraqi people are supporters of Sadham! This all seems reminiscent of the US stance over Cuba, The missile crises was real and nearly led to Armageddon. Since then the US has imposed sanctions against a tiny Island that has not been a threat for over 30 years. The US has no right to impose its will over the world without the worlds agreement!

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Jon responded on the 06 April 2003

This is getting interesting. We, the people were told the whole reason for this was to get rid of the chemical and biological weapons the west supplied some years ago. The secondary aim was to have a regime change or more specifically to remove Sadham, his family and a "few" close to the top. The US/UK are now in the process of killing HUNDREDS of thousands of people, destroying the infrastructure and imposing western values. Remember Hitler was said by him to be welcomed into some of the counters he invaded. Iraq has NEVER attacked the west, only its neighbours and the west made Iraq pay a very price for this 13 years ago.

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jen responded on the 06 April 2003

"western values" are not being imposed - just the right to human rights! They dont seem to have many under Sadam's regime

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jen responded on the 07 April 2003

V.Haddad, are you saying we shouldnt care about the suffering these people go through because of their evil leader? Not ust greedy, but evil. At least our leaders dont torture and kill us for reasons such as speaking out against them, or infidelity. And as for the quote, they're going to have a long wait for this regime to pass without it being forced out, becuase Sadam has sons to carry it on, and Sadam himself has been in power for around 30 years.

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jen responded on the 07 April 2003

HH, about wot u said : "This all seems reminiscent of the US stance over Cuba, The missile crises was real and nearly led to Armageddon. Since then the US has imposed sanctions against a tiny Island that has not been a threat for over 30 years." COLDWAR . need I say anymore?They let Russia use their country in the coldwar and imposed a threat - they cant do that and not pay the consequence

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kondor responded on the 10 April 2003

"At least our leaders dont torture and kill us for reasons such as speaking out against them, or infidelity." I just came across this site and looked through this discussion. I'm assumming, Jen, that you are writing from the US where "our leaders" have in fact tortured and killed us throughout the history of the US. It starts with the Native Americans, the African Americans, members of the suffragette movements, Xicanos, Liberationists, the 60s, CIA experiments on US citizens, mental health and radiation experiments throughout the 1950s... the list goes on. This is not to mention what our government has condoned and more actively perpetrated in other countries throughout the years. And, this is not to mention what in fact our leaders have done to Mother Earth. peace!

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jen responded on the 11 April 2003

Guess u assumed wrong as im from the UK. And let's not please go back in history - we are talking about supposedly civilised 21st century countries which is what the UK and the US are. Unlike the previous state of Iraq. And about the mother Earth comment, you must think things just magically appear. If you can critisise having to use up earth's resources to gain things then I guess you must be self efficient and not rely on products that were made by the big bad companies. Live on a farm and make everything yourself eh?

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Helen responded on the 19 April 2003

Well, the news coverage of Iraq has started to dwindle, only a few hundred thousand human beings killed so it must have been worth it, the west is saved from Iraq's weapons of mass destruction. The peace loving civilised UK and US can breathe a sigh of relief. The UK Government of the 80s can ignore it murder policy in Ireland and blame a few rouge "employees" Sadam Hussein has er gone. The US can go on imprisoning foreign nationals without trial, rights and legal status. Hec the west is so cool. We have technology, money, health care etc all paid for by the exploitation of the 2nd and 3rd world and of course our own hard work! Wow what a wonderful peace loving and educated bunch we are! NOT. When will we wake UP.

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Frank responded on the 19 March 2004

Well a lot of water (and blood) has flowed since the war. The rights and wrongs are still being argued. While we argue, more are dying. Terrorism has been strengthened, The UN has been weakened. All for control of the oil region. Om Mani, Padme, Hung

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Frank responded on the 05 June 2004

It seems clear to me, the new leader in Iraq is a puppet, the US says they did not choose this leader, a bit like they did not choose Sadam 15-20 years ago! Oh yes they did and oh yes they do. The was was not really about Iraq it was about Saudi oil, domination and control of the region and money. Oh well another day another dollar.

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gary responded on the 10 January 2005

no matter what dession our president makes we should support him. all this protesting is just making things worse. if we back out of iraq now we will ruin eveything they have. we have to let the kids of iraq have a good future with education and not terrorism. in order to do that we have to take out the bad leaders and put in a good one and a good iraq will form. and the reason we should go to war with North Korea is becuase they are known for selling weapons to terrorist. and do you want the terroist to have a nuke??? suddenly you will change your mind when a terrorist gets ahold of a nuke and detonate it on US soil. also what does North Korea need nuclear weapons for??? you have to think 3 moves ahead and not just whats happening now. war might be bad but think of what might happen if we dont go to war.

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Alex responded on the 10 January 2005

Gary, Our president? I am a UK citizen, not a subject of your president. Maybe try thinking globally and take your US hat off for a while. Maybe try a very strange notion - That some people think the US is "bad" and its government is corrupt. Would it be OK for them to invade the US, arrest Bush, and impose its value systems on the US? No? Well why is it OK for the US to do it to others. Iraq was never involved in terrorism. Sep 11 was a Saudi/Pakistani attack supported by Bin Laden and NOT Iraq. Iraq does not have WMD, did not have terrorism (until after the US invaded) Except with US support when fighting with Iran many years ago Iraq has not been involved in terrorism. The US, Russia, South Africa, France and the UK are the main suppliers of weapons for terrorists. The only country that has used nuclear weapons is the US. Remember that. In the area India, Pakistan, and Israel have nuclear weapons all supplied by France, USA and the former USSR.

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Maria Kovach responded on the 02 March 2005

Hi wats up, My name is Maria Kovach and I'm tired of the war and I wish that it would just be over my cousin had to go and serve in the begining and he said that it was just horrible and that he loved to be home his name is shane and I love hom with all my heart and I was terrified that he had to go but he has made it home safe and is going to get married soon well thank you for reading and I hope you understand well have a nice day Sincerly Maria Kovach

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Wood responded on the 20 August 2005

Remember how it all started - WMD, get rid of Sadam, save the people from the evil dictator... Now there are thousands and thousands dead, most are Iraqi civilians. Hundreds of US troops dead. For what. Al quida are even stronger yet had absolutely nothing to do with Iraq before the US went in! The greed and delusion of our leaders has caused so much suffering. All this dishonesty for a secure supply of oil to the most greedy nation in the world.

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Steve responded on the 19 October 2006

This may not be directly related BUT, has anyone noticed the so called socialist, democratic nation known as the UK is creeping towards a dictatorship, human rights ebbed in the name of security, tens of thousands being watched, what seems like government sponsored intolerance. Not to mention the growing number of monitoring cameras which are now being user to monitor individuals rather than spot crime or public disorder.

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Sharon D responded on the 13 November 2006

I hope and pray that our leaders can apologize in full to the Iraqi people and to us for getting us all into this mess and for the countless deaths and injuries caused by OUR LEADERS errors. The US (just maybe) had good intentions, however it is very clear that they have done more harm than good to world stability, peace, and harmony. Updated 13/11/2006 14:48:02

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None responded on the 22 January 2007

Steve, you make a really good point, 8-9 years ago we were told by local councils that cameras were not for the "police" but for them! But obviously they would inform the police if they saw crime. Then all that has changed, they are now used with cleaver software to monitor people and cars etc 24hrs a day. Not for public safety but for spying on anyone "they" have even the slightest interest in. All this is hidden behind the secrets act. I suspect that in less than 10 years technology will recognise all of us as we go about our daily lives. Oh well, no wonder the hoodie is so popular! Deep inside we all sense when we are being watched, most animals have this sense, so we all simply start feeling uneasy and become more tense and fearful without really knowing why.

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